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  Conversation

  by jdash in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so this morning i had a conversation with my grandmother about going out in service.

  remind you i'm only 17. i tried to ask her why i had to go out in service if this isn't what i believe in and whatnot.

  she went on saying basically these are the rules for this house.

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  Black Sheep

  You did well by not telling her what you know. It is way better to keep your opinions to yourself and just ask a very occasional question, in such a way that she feels obligated to answer it, then very calmly and without being confrontational, make her explain any dishonesty she uses to weasel her way out of properly answering that question. Keep focussed on making her answer the question that you asked so that she can't morph it into some other question that she is more comfortable with.
  

  Take it easy, softly, softly catchee monkey.
  
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  March 2018 Study Watchtower

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the first study article is about getting bible studies and children baptized.

  there is much more emphasis placed on parents to get their own children baptized rather than focusing on bible students.

  they try to impress on others the need for urgency.

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  Black Sheep

  I don't know why anyone is surprised by this. I haven't read the article, but from the comments, there hasn't been much change, if any. The psychological warfare on parents and children doesn't seem any different from when I was a child of JW's in the sixties.
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  A Little Direction Please

  by Brian J in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.

  i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.

  i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".

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  Black Sheep

  Your best chance to extract your family is while they see you as strong in the faith and you haven't donned an Apostate hat, so ask questions, but don't provide answers and personal opinions, letting them do the research to find the answers.
  

  Take your time and be prepared to be the last one out.

  Softly, softly, catchee monkey.
  
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  Can you sue a False Prophet

  by maccauk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  its a serious question but we all know that thousands even millions have been misled, brainwashed or deluded into thinking the end of the world is coming by false teachers and prophets.

  many people gave up family, careers, time, enjoyment of life etc etc only to be disappointed time and time again.they are responsible for pain, suffering, and manipulation.

  this goes to many denominations.

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  Black Sheep

  Did anybody sue Harold Camping? I doubt it was possible.
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  1950- present PDF Scans of original mailed or literature counter, WTs ?

  by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think these exist ?

  has someone created pdf scans of original mailed or literature counter wts?

  or have copies of those pdf's?.

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  Black Sheep

  You might be chasing fairies. The WTLib has always been the last printed version. If that has changed, it will be very recent.
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  Have you ever come across someone on this site or other exjw site that you knew?

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  2 for me 1 from my old congro in the 80's and another that was in the same circle of friends.. karter..

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  Black Sheep

  No. A few with common acquaintances. I've been out of the loop for a long time.
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  Evolutionist on their deathbed.

  by Nimble duck in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would really like to read the thoughts of an evolutionist as they lie on their deathbed.

  their "honest to nogod" thoughts.

  their terrors.

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  Black Sheep

  Imagine being on your death bed after having been told for the past seventy years that you are one of the 'great crowd' with all the expectations that went along with that, but by now, every promise that you were made and have passed on to your children, relatives, friends and converts, (and you have abused some of them for not listening), has gone unfulfilled by Jehovah, the God that is supposed to have kept his word and made it all happen.

  If there is a Hell, JWs should be made to greet their converts at the gates.
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  Non-JW notices the D-to-D drop off

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  an interesting link that notes how jw (and mormon) door-to-door evangelism has dropped off:.

  http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/where-have-all-the-jehovahs-witness-and-mormons-gone/news-story/35adc0d46c1b3c1d7cafca6d69dbb900.

  the aussie writer notices that instead they have "set up a stall in the carpark at the supermarket.".

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  Black Sheep

  It was a contributor noticing that Dubbies and Mormons don't knock on their door any more, plus that the Dubs don't bother to set up the stalls they did when they first gave up door knocking.
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  Non-JW notices the D-to-D drop off

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  an interesting link that notes how jw (and mormon) door-to-door evangelism has dropped off:.

  http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/where-have-all-the-jehovahs-witness-and-mormons-gone/news-story/35adc0d46c1b3c1d7cafca6d69dbb900.

  the aussie writer notices that instead they have "set up a stall in the carpark at the supermarket.".

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  Black Sheep

  Damn. It worked for me, it won't work for you
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  Non-JW notices the D-to-D drop off

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  an interesting link that notes how jw (and mormon) door-to-door evangelism has dropped off:.

  http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/where-have-all-the-jehovahs-witness-and-mormons-gone/news-story/35adc0d46c1b3c1d7cafca6d69dbb900.

  the aussie writer notices that instead they have "set up a stall in the carpark at the supermarket.".

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  Black Sheep

  try this

  https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=%22set+up+a+stall+in+the+carpark+at+the+supermarket.%22&rlz=1C1AOHY_en-GBNZ708NZ708&oq=%22set+up+a+stall+in+the+carpark+at+the+supermarket.%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.5656j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8